003: Join Jesus - Pick Up Praise - THIS IS THE DAY

THIS IS THE DAY that the Lord has made. (as I walk WITH God) I will pursue JOY and practice contentment in it.

Rejoicing and finding contentment in today, is surely not wallpapering over sorrow and sadness. Its not pretending that life isn’t hard...

No it’s walking through it all alongside Jesus Join us this week as we Practice: JOINING JESUS ALL DAY LONG

+ 003 Join Jesus - Patrick Mayberry Transcript

Tim (00:00): Hey everybody. Thank you so much for checking out the 10000 Minute Experiment podcast. My name's Tim Timmons, and we've got a really great show for you to listen and then hopefully engage with. Today, we've got one of my good friends named Patrick Mayberry, who is an incredible songwriter and he's a new artist with Centricity Records. But he's actually one of my favorite people to write with and just to be with, so I think you will love him as much is I do.

Tim (00:21): And if you're new to this podcast, really the order is that we just have a few minutes of total dumbness. I think it's funny, so hopefully you do too. And if you don't, just skip forward a few minutes, and we'll dive into how The Experiment went this past week and what we learned from it. And then, we do this 10000 questions thing with our guest, which is dumb and funny. And then, after that, we will go into what the next week's experiment will be. And we'll just kind of riff on that for a bit and have a lot of fun and also invite each other into a pretty powerful experiment. So, thanks again. Here we go.

Tim (00:51): Okay everybody, welcome to 10000 Minutes Experiment.

Emmoe (01:00): Woo.

Chris (01:00): You did it right.

Tim (01:00): This is Tim Timmons.

Emmoe (01:02): You did it.

Tim (01:02): Thank you very much. I finally did it right. To my right, the lovely Emmoe.

Emmoe (01:05): That's me. Hi.

Tim (01:05): 'Sup, Emmoe?

Emmoe (01:06): Hi.

Tim (01:07): To my hard far left.

Chris (01:09): Woo.

Tim (01:10): Yeah.

Chris (01:10): All right. Hard left.

Tim (01:11): Does that make sense?

Chris (01:12): I'm in.

Tim (01:13): Is Chris Cleveland.

Chris (01:14): What's up?

Tim (01:15): We should just call you Stars Go Dim.

Chris (01:17): Don't do it. Band names are so stupid.

Tim (01:20): Why don't you go by Chris Cleveland?

Chris (01:22): I don't think I ever did, was the problem. And then there were people that wanted it.

Tim (01:26): Now you got t-shirts and stuff.

Chris (01:26): Yeah.

Patrick (01:26): It's too late.

Chris (01:27): I got to sell the merch first.

Tim (01:28): Yeah. Yeah.

Chris (01:29): Once we're out of this run, then it's just "Chris" from now on.

Tim (01:32): Just Chris. Gosh, that's a good band name.

Chris (01:34): Just Chris.

Patrick (01:34): Just Chris.

Tim (01:35): And then to my immediate, is that a good word to say it? Instead of my hard left, my immediate left is a gentleman named Patrick Mayberry.

Patrick (01:42): Amen.

Tim (01:43): So, last week... You want to tell what-

Chris (01:46): This is great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, he said that you were coming, and I thought that you were a different Mayberry, so I started making jokes about accents.

Patrick (01:55): Yeah.

Chris (01:55): And you don't have one. So I was going to try to come in with a great Australian accent, but-

Patrick (02:03): Yeah.

Chris (02:03): I try hard, but it comes across real bad.

Tim (02:06): It was just a whole bit, because he's, "Oh, he has a cool accent." Can you give us your best real accent?

Patrick (02:13): What kind of accent?

Tim (02:14): Go Russian right now. Come on.

Patrick (02:19): I'm so happy to-

Tim (02:20): That's not a good one.

Chris (02:24): That's more like Schwarzenegger. I'm excited that you even tried. It's the most aggressive-

Patrick (02:28): It is great to be here today.

Emmoe (02:29): Don't lie to us.

Chris (02:34): It's so bad.

Patrick (02:36): My name is Dolph Lundgren.

Tim (02:40): Okay, give us your best Aussie accent.

Patrick (02:42): Hey, good day there, Tim.

Chris (02:44): That was pretty good.

Patrick (02:47): Guys. I'm having so much fun right now.

Tim (02:52): I first met Patrick on a writing trip.

Patrick (02:56): God we did. We shared a room together.

Tim (02:59): We shared a room together.

Patrick (02:59): A shoebox.

Tim (03:00): Yes.

Patrick (03:01): It was two twin beds and we could reach across and squeeze each other's hands.

Tim (03:05): So this dork and I we shared a room and the best part was there was this guy that slept walked.

Patrick (03:11): I forgot about that.

Tim (03:12): Want to tell that story?

Patrick (03:13): Yeah. We were both asleep. We were staying in this house. There was a lot of people staying in this house.

Tim (03:19): There were like 30 people staying in this one house. Yeah.

Patrick (03:21): I woke up-

Chris (03:22): It's in Atlanta?

Patrick (03:24): Yes. And I woke up in the middle of the night and there's Tim resting soundly and this dude just comes in our room. Kind of an odd dude.

Tim (03:33): Yeah, but he was staring at you, wasn't he?

Patrick (03:35): And he was like very disoriented and I don't know if he was sleepwalking, but he was just in our room for a hot minute and I was kind of like what's happening right now.

Chris (03:45): Have you guys heard about the stories where people murder people on their sleep?

Patrick (03:48): Well.

Chris (03:49): People have sleep-driven, sleep-murdered, sleep-drove back home.

Patrick (03:55): We were a step away from that in Atlanta.

Chris (03:57): I'm still glad you guys are still here.

Tim (04:00): Yes, me too. I didn't even think it was going to be that bad.

Chris (04:02): It's a thing. Yeah. It could go downhill. My wife only listens to murder podcasts. So I know a lot by proxy.

Patrick (04:09): Okay, then start one.

Chris (04:10): We're pretty street smart at our house.

Tim (04:12): So that's what this is going to be, this episode. Murder episode.

Patrick (04:14): Yeah, that was it. That's where the magic began.

Tim (04:17): Yeah. Patrick is an amazing songwriter. Now you have a song out right now on radio, doing well on the radios.

Patrick (04:24): Why not, right?

Tim (04:26): [inaudible 00:04:26], what's it called?

Patrick (04:28): Breakthrough Miracle Power.

Tim (04:30): Awesome.

Patrick (04:30): Big name.

Tim (04:31): So go check it out.

Patrick (04:32): Big songs needs big names.

Tim (04:34): But Patrick is a wonderful human. Great dad. Great friend.

Patrick (04:38): Thank you.

Tim (04:39): Yeah. Anywho. All right. We're going to dive into this next week's experiment but before we do, we're going to hear a little section of the song Roar that Patrick and I wrote that this experiment is actually based on.

Speaker 5 (04:59): (singing)

Tim (05:14): Okay. So the idea was instead of picking up worry this week or any of the, we had said worry, fear, disgust, judgment that we'd actually pick up praise and the definition of praise was affirming God's goodness, power and his nearness in the midst of our chaos and in the mundane. So how did it go?

Patrick (05:37): That was an impressive look. You can't see it but Emmoe was giving me eyes over here. Was that like a you go first look?

Emmoe (05:44): Yeah.

Patrick (05:45): Because of the week-

Tim (05:47): It was hard for me.

Patrick (05:47): It was harder?

Tim (05:47): Yeah. So I want to hear about yours because it'll encourage my heart.

Patrick (05:50): Well, I don't know if it will, but we'll try. Okay. Am I going first? I kind of struggle with this anyways, because it made me think of a couple things. When I was a kid, I feel like I was the epitome of what a sheltered Christian kid is like grew up in church, my parents were pastors and I was all in. So I would like talk to God all day. Somewhere I just lost that, right. It reminded me a little bit of that, of just being cognizant of an ever present God. In my mind, it was more of like just acknowledging God where I saw him or felt him. So it wasn't like this big thing. So it's like, all my analogies have to do with my kids because that's just a season we're in.

Patrick (06:35): So we had an awesome weekend this weekend, literally crazy. It was just really cool. So I just found myself in those moments, just trying to say, God, thank you for this. Even backtracking from I'm still on the breathe in Jesus, breathe out thing because it's just worked really well for me.

Tim (06:52): Yeah.

Patrick (06:52): Just to update you my Sunday shame text from Apple that shows me all my stuff. I was down 35% on my phone. So I'm pretty great.

Tim (07:01): Wow. These practices really do work.

Patrick (07:03): Bro, yeah.

Emmoe (07:03): Changing our lives.

Patrick (07:05): But yeah, I think it was just like, for me it was more about small moments that I could catch a glimpse of like, okay, God you've really brought me somewhere and you've really blessed our family or in the midst of all of this you're working. So I see you and thank you.

Emmoe (07:21): Yeah. I mean, I take it back, maybe it wasn't easy, but I think it's easier when you're doing it with people. So I think Sunday was easy to praise because everyone else was also praising.

Tim (07:31): Yeah.

Emmoe (07:31): But Friday, Saturday, those were hard days. I was just going through a lot of imposter syndrome. I just talked about my need to be perfect. And I-

Tim (07:42): On last week's podcast.

Emmoe (07:42): Last week. Yeah. We talked about where our attention goes and how that's worship. I was having a hard two days and then Sunday being with people, proclaiming our faith was very good for my soul. And we talked about where our attention goes, pulls us to where we're present instead of always thinking about tomorrow or the future and I think Sunday was a good day of grounding for me. I think I realized how much I don't praise as well, where I'm like, man, my attention really is everywhere. I do worship other things and I was reading a study on praise. I'm a researcher. So like I could do these things, but if I don't know the core, the origin, all that stuff, I feel really lost. And I was reading about how praise was also a sacrifice in certain parts of the Bible, it was an offering you had to bring. And so I felt like this weekend was a moment for me to sacrifice, bring an offering of praise, not just pick it up.

Tim (08:41): What's the difference? And what does that mean in real human language?

Emmoe (08:46): I think for me, it's the acknowledging that I'm sacrificing my own strength and my own need to be perfect to acknowledge who God is.

Tim (08:55): Like the idea of putting that on the table saying, God take this.

Emmoe (09:00): Yeah, like a giving. Not so much I picked it up and now what do I do with it? It was more of like, oh, it's a gift, what I'm doing is proclaiming my faith and that itself is like a moment of sacrificing whatever I had my attention on or whatever I was fully focused on. So that kind of changed my perspective of picking up praise or praise in general because before I'd be like, yes, there's so many reasons to really say who God is. But I had a weekend where I was like, my mind is so on me. But being with people and praising collectively was really good, of like, this is a truth all the time. Thinking of it as an offering, that's something new for me I think. I was like, wow.

Emmoe (09:43): And the study was saying, how praise is an essential part, if not the center part of worship. So to come and obviously receive from a God we believe in and we love, it's also about giving that acknowledgement. And I don't do that often. I'm like, oops, yeah, I trust and I say who you are, but I'm never really delighting in it.

Tim (10:05): In him?

Emmoe (10:05): Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Tim (10:06): Yeah. It's a change in focus. What do you pick up first? Do you pick up worry? Do you pick up sarcasm most often? Do you pick up anger? What do you pick up?

Patrick (10:15): Yeah, I think for me, for sure, it's worry. It's worry rooted in a lot of probably self consciousness, rooted in just forgetfulness of who I think I am, who I think God is. It's forgetfulness of what I've seen God do thus far in my life. And in other people's lives, things I've heard about or even like reading stories in the Bible of like, God did that, god did this. I feel like at times I'm like I said this to a friend last week, I feel like I'm like a modern day Israelite where God will do something crazy mind blowing on Monday and then on Tuesday I think he's forsaken me and left me. And so how's this going to pan out tomorrow? So I think worry is a big thing for me and how will tomorrow work itself out?

Patrick (11:07): My pastor always says, "God is faithful. We are forgetful." And I'm the king of that and so I have to remind myself if God got me this far, why would he ditch me now? So I wish I were better at practicing praise, but I wish I had a better daily practice of kind of what you said it's like that offering it to God, but also reminding myself. I think that's what I need the most is to remind myself, no, God, you are faithful. God, you are good. You are for me. This is what is true about you and this is what you say is true about me.

Tim (11:42): Yeah. That was what was hard for me this week. I wish that the practice actually wasn't picking up praise. I wish it would've been just affirming God in the moment for who is he in the moment.

Chris (11:53): Yeah. Yeah.

Tim (11:53): Because I wrote down, it didn't work for me in conflict, either conflict with my wife or conflict with my kids, which never happens, neither of those, so that's cool. I mean, [crosstalk 00:12:03].

Emmoe (12:03): That's old Testament.

Tim (12:04): It's total old Testament, now it's new creation. But in all these conflicts or things that I'm having with my family right now work stuff or any of these things that are not going the way that I'm wanting to.

Patrick (12:16): Right.

Tim (12:16): And especially when they get me in this place of like, I'm really pissed at this moment. This isn't just like my cat peed on the whatever and by the way, I do not like cats.

Chris (12:27): Thanks for sharing that.

Tim (12:28): You're welcome. Thank you. I appreciate this is a safe place.

Patrick (12:30): If a cat were human size, it would kill you. It would eat you.

Emmoe (12:33): I thought you were about to say it would be me. And I'm like, oh, okay, that's cool.

Patrick (12:39): If your house cat that you own that is your pet that you care for, I fully believe that it would eat its master.

Chris (12:45): It'd eat you.

Patrick (12:46): It'd be like, you're nothing to me. I'm going to kill you.

Tim (12:49): I agree.

Emmoe (12:50): Wow.

Patrick (12:51): You can't turn your back on a cat ever. Conflict with a cat.

Chris (12:56): There's a cat somewhere.

Tim (12:56): Yes. I've actually had conflicts with my dog and I have a lot of strong words that I say every day about my dog.

Patrick (13:03): Like praise words?

Tim (13:04): Nope, Nope, Nope.

Patrick (13:06): Okay.

Tim (13:06): Nope. Not a lot of affirmations or praise. That's a different podcast. So it's been a hard week for me to see this because I kept going okay, in this moment, Tim, I'd see my X on my wrist and I'd go, okay, don't pick up, worry on this or what are you experiencing in this, Tim? And every time I'm just like, I'm mad and I know the anger is a second emotion, I know that, yet in that moment I'm like, nope, I'm going to live real right here. This is the best place to live. This is the most helpful thing.

Chris (13:37): I'm going to be here.

Tim (13:37): Yeah. I actually want to be in that place.

Chris (13:38): I'm going to choose to stay here for a while.

Emmoe (13:40): Yeah.

Tim (13:40): I wish that we had said pick up affirmation, practice affirmation. It was more of this understanding of who is God in this moment.

Patrick (13:49): Yeah.

Tim (13:49): That's where I landed. And so by the end of the time I started landing at that place, of going, okay, I'm really mad about this or I'm really offended by this. Okay. God, who am I going to believe and live as though it's true that you are this? You have been faithful in this. You do love this person. You are at work in this situation. And that's when I started actually changing for me. So the first part of the week was actually, I was a little discouraged by it.

Tim (14:16): I told you guys that I'm building this wall in here, trying to put up these shelves. And I mean, I put so many holes in this, I mean, you could see them right over there. Just there, they're strong holes.

Chris (14:28): They look good.

Tim (14:29): And then the dumb screw would not, it kept breaking off and I'm like, I'm putting holes in my wall. Anyways it's so trivial but even in the mundanes, that was the whole point, in the chaos and in the mundane and that's kind of mundane. I mean, that's just a hole in my wall, in my studio. But even in that moment, who is God, who am I to him? What actually matters, Tim, in this moment versus what I'm starting to get all freaked out about and I mean, I'm literally worrying about a hole in my studio.

Chris (14:56): Do you find yourself spinning out on things that don't matter more than things that matter?

Tim (15:00): Oh.

Chris (15:00): Because I do. If it has little to no consequence, I can lose my mind. But if it's important, I can kind of pull it together. But yeah, most of the things that I freak out about don't matter at all.

Tim (15:16): What is that?

Chris (15:16): That's weird. I have no idea. I got to go deeper there somewhere. But it's like, I'd lose my mind about the holes. And then my wife would come in, it's like, it's a hole. And like, I know.

Patrick (15:28): I don't know. I mean, we're humans, so it's like in the little things, sometimes we forget that God actually likes those things too and cares about those things.

Chris (15:35): Yeah. I think it's maybe easier to give God the big stuff because we can't handle it-

Patrick (15:40): And you ramp yourself up for it.

Chris (15:42): You're like, oh, I know I can't do this. God, you got it. And you can kind of walk away. The little stuff for like, I'm supposed to be able to put a hole in the wall without losing my mind or whatever it is. And so I think the interesting thing about these practices is it's taking the small stuff captive and giving it back. Being cognizant of that. So even like picking up praise, it's like, how do I find this in the mundane?

Tim (16:06): Yes.

Chris (16:07): And in all of this stuff. I'm really guilty as a three and an achiever and all of these things of just plowing through and doing my thing and I'm not very good. And this is with people, with God, with everything of even giving space for input or anything else to come in. So that's why I actually enjoy these things even though I feel like I copped out a little bit on this week, but it is making me mindful of the small moments and where I should give my attention to.

Tim (16:42): Yeah. Okay. So the question we're asking every week is when was it easy or difficult to do this with Jesus or for Jesus? I found myself, it was maybe 70 with, 30 for him and the for him was kind of like, well, I'm going to do this because it's what we're doing together. It was more obligatory, which even in and of itself was actually still helpful for me to still stop me. It made me kind of go, huh, what matters here? And if I'm going to affirm God in this moment. And I think when I was doing it for him, so the difference Patrick, that is, I'm always talking about the idea of working for God or walking with him and that I've worked for him most of my life, which got me just to an exhausted place. So the more that I'm walking with him, changing my life. So even in these practices, they can just be this religious duty thing that we do, that is empty and stupid at some point. But did you guys find that at all?

Patrick (17:40): I'll share and I'll probably go down a tangent, but I think being a dad of four kids, I think God is showing me so much grace with how many imperfections I have in the way I father my kids. It's almost like he's amplifying the imperfections to show me how perfect he is.

Tim (17:57): What's that look like?

Patrick (17:59): I had a great dad growing up, but I see just human imperfections and in how that's shaped the way I view my relationship with God. And I think I'm actually thankful because the way that I feel like it could have been different with my relationship with my dad, I feel like God's like, what if that were the thing so that I could show you how I'm actually perfect and that's not how I'll do it. Now that I'm a dad to my kids, I'm actually having more grace with myself in the imperfections because that's going to teach my kids that I'm not perfect, but that their heavenly father is.

Patrick (18:38): So when you say doing things for God or doing things with God, I feel like I'm in this new revelation of doing things with God because I think of all of the ways that I want to do things with my kids. I recently heard this podcast or sermon about God giving us gifts and if this guy was sharing like he wanted, it was his kid's birthday and he wanted to get his kid a baseball. That's all the kid wanted. And he's like, no, my kid doesn't deserve a baseball, but I want him to have a baseball because I love him and I want him to enjoy it and I want to throw a baseball with him and something clicked for me with music and life. It's like, God gave me these gifts because what if he wants to enjoy them with me?

Patrick (19:23): Not that I use them necessarily for him and for his kingdom and his church. Sure. But what if his number one goal was like, God, I just want to do something with you. So I'm going to give you the gift of carpentry or I'm going to give you the gift of computer programming or I'm going to give you the gift of music because I just want to do them with you.

Tim (19:44): I love that.

Patrick (19:44): So I haven't mastered that at all, but that's reframing the way I think about how I'm doing life and being a dad and a husband. And it's like, I see all these gifts God's given me and it's like, what if God's like, I gave them to you because I want to do them with you. I want to hang out with you because I love you. You're my son. So that's blowing my mind a little bit in this season.

Tim (20:06): So just for fun, how different would our days be if that was our aim? What mood would change? How would your conversations change? Your energy, your cravings, your attention.

Patrick (20:19): I know I just talked a bunch, but I think it'd be wildly different. It's like if you told your kid, hey tomorrow, you're not going to school. I want you to go upstairs, pack a backpack and we're we're going on an adventure. And my boy's like, we'll go to the skate park, we'll go get ice cream, we'll go do something. They would be consumed with that all night long. They wouldn't be able to sleep because they're like, I'm going to spend the day with my dad or my mom and we're just going to go do something crazy.

Patrick (20:49): That would shift everything for them. So it's like, what if we, as adults, could get to that spot where we're like, right, I'm going to go pack my backpack tonight because tomorrow I'm going to do something crazy with my father. Versus I've got to go out there and work hard and do the thing. And I think that's the danger we've gotten into is it's become so much about well I got to get out there and do this and do that and do this and maybe God will like me at the end of the day. We just forget. It's like, well I'll just go on and do my thing and forget that God actually wants to spend time with us.

Tim (21:25): Yeah. I mean, that is the definition of for versus with. And even in the idea of affirmation or praise saying, hallelujah, it's affirming God for X, Y or Z. I'm actually affirming him by saying, you are loving. You want to be with me, you are safe. You are mindful of me. You're near.

Patrick (21:46): You actually like me.

Emmoe (21:48): Yeah.

Tim (21:49): I don't have to work for you. Earn anything from you. How would that be as affirming God?

Chris (21:55): Yeah. I think that's kind of goes hand in hand with a little bit of what I was starting to figure out. It's like, oh, this is like what you had in store for me, I've been working so hard for all this other stuff and I didn't even know it. It's just what I got brought up in and learned from and saw other people do, so I'm going to go do that too. So it's just a interesting place where faith meets real life and I feel like maybe a lot of us were sold this faith that really didn't have anything to do with real life. That's the journey I'm on at least.

Tim (22:27): I love it.

Chris (22:27): Seeing it and figuring it out.

Tim (22:29): I love it. I mean, that's the whole point of this whole thing is I think we all know all the right answers and all the things and we could throw a million cliches out there, but to live some of those cliches is a really different story and a 10,000 minutes.

Chris (22:43): Yep.

Tim (22:44): So if you have practiced this with us this past week, you can let us know how that went and if you have not, and you're just binge listening, why don't you practice this? And for me it was most helpful to practice praise by practice just affirming who he is in that moment or even saying, what do I even actually believe about who you are God, in this moment. When I'm worrying, what does it actually mean that I've believe about you. So practice that with us and let us know how that goes. And we are going to take a quick snack break and we'll right back with some sweet questions for you, Mr. Patrick.

Chris (23:21): Yes.

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Emmoe (23:33): Oh that's nice.

Tim (23:35): Oh cut.

Chris (23:36): Pretty good.

Tim (23:39): Okay. So we're back. We're back. It's been quite a snack break.

Chris (23:43): So much useless information [crosstalk 00:23:45] is what that-

Tim (23:47): So much [inaudible 00:23:47].

Patrick (23:47): I didn't get a snack.

Tim (23:49): Yeah. Well-

Patrick (23:50): I thought what you said, it's a snack break. My mind really went, oh, we're going to get snacks.

Emmoe (23:56): You're supposed to pack it. We didn't text you.

Patrick (23:58): That is so fun and we did not get any snacks.

Chris (24:00): It's fine.

Tim (24:01): Well, yeah. Okay. So these are 10,000 questions.

Patrick (24:04): Yeah. I'm ready.

Tim (24:05): Speed round.

Patrick (24:05): I love that.

Tim (24:06): Speed round.

Patrick (24:07): I live for that.

Tim (24:08): Describe yourself in three words. This is a speed round.

Patrick (24:12): Fun, too much energy and I'm just here for a good time.

Tim (24:19): Let me ask one more time.

Emmoe (24:20): That's a good movie.

Tim (24:21): Describe yourself with three words.

Patrick (24:22): I'm just here for a good time. Ask me one more time. One more time.

Tim (24:29): Describe yourself in three words.

Patrick (24:30): I'm just here for a very good time.

Tim (24:31): One, two, three. Okay. That's perfect. That's perfect. What is one of the things you would put on your bucket list?

Patrick (24:40): I would like to do two weeks in a 60 foot sailboat in the Caribbean.

Chris (24:48): Is it in the water or are you docked?

Patrick (24:50): Oh no. We're hopping around.

Chris (24:53): Have you done that before?

Patrick (24:54): No, it's a bucket... I want to put it on my bucket list.

Emmoe (24:57): It's in my bucket.

Chris (24:58): Do you know how to sail is what I mean.

Patrick (25:00): No. It's on the bucket list. I mean, if I were like, I'm going to go out and mow the yard, that wouldn't be a good bucket list, you got to go high.

Chris (25:07): You got to go high. [crosstalk 00:25:09].

Patrick (25:09): I'm going to get a black belt in karate.

Emmoe (25:13): I do have a black belt, that's doable.

Patrick (25:15): It's like, you have to aspire a bucket list.

Chris (25:17): I once lived with a Taekwondo grand master. I'm not kidding.

Emmoe (25:24): What?

Chris (25:24): He could kill you.

Tim (25:24): Overheard. Yeah.

Chris (25:25): Oh man. It was so incredible. Seventh degree. You get seventh degree, you're like a God in-

Patrick (25:30): He could look at you and kill you.

Chris (25:32): Oh dude. He could, it was so scary. He was training for the US open and the world championships. He won them while I was with him. And it would take 12 of us double padded up and we'd just run in and he'd knock us out. And we'd just get up and it was just a round and he was going like 25% the whole time.

Tim (25:50): Do you have a video of this?

Chris (25:51): I have videos. I'll show you.

Tim (25:52): Yeah, we might need to post that.

Chris (25:53): That's great.

Tim (25:53): Well did overhear Emmoe say that she has a black belt.

Emmoe (25:56): I do.

Chris (25:57): Whoa. In what?

Emmoe (26:02): I'm first degree.

Patrick (26:02): Are you serious?

Emmoe (26:02): In Wado-Ryu.

Chris (26:02): In what?

Emmoe (26:02): Wado-Ryu.

Patrick (26:02): Wait, tell us about that please. I am-

Emmoe (26:05): I got it when I was 12. So I-

Chris (26:07): What is it? What type-

Emmoe (26:09): Wado-Ryu. I wish I-

Patrick (26:10): Wado-

Emmoe (26:12): Wado-Ryu, which I think means open hand or maybe karate, it means something.

Patrick (26:15): If you want to talk martial arts or magic, I get so fired up.

Emmoe (26:19): Martial arts and magic.

Patrick (26:21): Now that, so wait-

Emmoe (26:23): Side podcast. Let's keep going. I'm an idea kind of person.

Patrick (26:26): So you were like, was it ground stuff or you're like you can punch chop.

Emmoe (26:31): I can flip you over. It'd hurt to do it but I-

Patrick (26:34): That is so fun. And now you're like, hey, walk up to me in a parking lot and see what happens.

Emmoe (26:39): Yeah until I say I got it when I was 12.

Chris (26:42): It's fine.

Emmoe (26:43): It's not that scary anymore.

Patrick (26:44): But you've got it, you've still got it.

Chris (26:46): A black belt doesn't fade.

Emmoe (26:47): It's all in here, guys.

Patrick (26:48): Do you have your hands registered as lethal weapons?

Chris (26:50): Don't put them in your pockets.

Emmoe (26:52): No, not in these streets.

Chris (26:53): Actually they're just open concealed carry in Tennessee, so you're good.

Patrick (26:57): That is so cool.

Emmoe (26:58): Yeah.

Tim (27:00): Wado-Ryu silly.

Chris (27:01): I've never heard of Wado... I keep wanting to say Waterloo.

Tim (27:04): Yeah. Yeah.

Emmoe (27:05): That's a different one.

Chris (27:05): That's a different thing.

Emmoe (27:06): Yeah. They don't have black belts in that one.

Tim (27:08): Altogether. Okay, any pet peeves?

Patrick (27:10): Yeah. I literally thought of one yesterday. Shoot. I forgot it. And I remember I was like, you know what? I don't have a lot of pet peeves, but I remembered I was like I'm going to mark this one, this is a pet peeve, but I can't remember what it is.

Tim (27:22): You're going to mark this? Where do you mark it?

Patrick (27:24): In my brain.

Chris (27:24): Is this a mental note? Mental note.

Tim (27:27): Different question. Where do you mark your pet peeves?

Patrick (27:29): In my brain.

Tim (27:30): Okay. And well, apparently it doesn't work.

Patrick (27:33): It doesn't work. I forgot about it.

Tim (27:34): That's a pet peeve of mine.

Patrick (27:35): It'll come back to me and then I'll email you guys.

Tim (27:40): Gosh, that's so powerful.

Emmoe (27:41): Just a voice memo.

Patrick (27:42): I actually don't have to pet peeves.

Chris (27:44): That's impressive.

Tim (27:45): What about people coming in our bedroom looking at you, staring at you?

Patrick (27:48): That's just weird. That makes for a great story. I'm okay with it.

Tim (27:52): Okay. If you had access to a time machine, where and when would you go?

Patrick (27:55): Oh, I think it would be really fun to see what the pirates were doing. I think I have a pirate affinity.

Chris (28:04): Okay.

Patrick (28:05): I love Jimmy Buffett.

Chris (28:07): Okay.

Patrick (28:07): So the Caribbean-

Tim (28:07): Why you looking at Chris? Chris has long hair and-

Chris (28:10): Well, we were talking about sailing a second ago in the Caribbean.

Patrick (28:10): No, we were talking about sailing. Yeah, 15, 1600s, I think could be interesting.

Tim (28:18): Yeah.

Patrick (28:19): But it'd also be cool to go back to the eighties and see what I was doing as a kid. I have a lot, or sixties or the seventies.

Chris (28:30): Basically every time.

Patrick (28:30): Yeah.

Chris (28:30): Basically every time I haven't been, I'd love to see.

Patrick (28:32): I'd probably go back to yesterday.

Tim (28:35): Last one. Do you have a favorite joke?

Patrick (28:37): I love great jokes. I love them and I actually when I'm leading worship, I like to open with a joke.

Tim (28:44): Yeah. That's good.

Emmoe (28:45): Break the ice.

Patrick (28:48): Why didn't, if you know it, don't answer it. Why did the koala bear not get into bear school?

Tim (28:57): I don't know. Why did the koala bear not get into bear school?

Patrick (29:00): Do you know it?

Chris (29:00): I don't know it.

Patrick (29:01): Do you guys know it?

Emmoe (29:02): I think I know it.

Patrick (29:03): He wasn't koalafied.

Emmoe (29:04): Yeah.

Chris (29:05): Ah, dang it. It was right there. It was so easy. I was like, koala bears hug the trees. I was going really deep in my mind.

Emmoe (29:12): Just feel stupid now.

Chris (29:12): Yeah.

Emmoe (29:12): That was a good one.

Patrick (29:12): That was a good one.

Tim (29:18): Wow.

Patrick (29:19): You're just getting it.

Emmoe (29:20): It's the kind of joke that will sneak up later in the day. You're going to laugh just out of nowhere.

Patrick (29:24): This afternoon you're going to be-

Tim (29:26): Rolling.

Patrick (29:27): Getting dinner prep ready.

Emmoe (29:29): Yep and this just hits you.

Patrick (29:30): And then you're just going to be like-

Emmoe (29:31): Qualified, koalafied.

Patrick (29:35): That jokester.

Tim (29:37): Spell koalafied.

Patrick (29:39): Q-U-A-L-I-F-I-E-D.

Chris (29:42): Oh, like the real one. I was going Koala.

Emmoe (29:45): I know, I was like K-O.

Chris (29:47): K-.

Patrick (29:47): Q-U-A-L-I-F-I-E-D.

Chris (29:49): [crosstalk 00:29:49].

Emmoe (29:48): We can finish this word together.

Chris (29:55): Sound it out.

Tim (29:57): Get back to this. Describe yourself in three words.

Emmoe (29:59): Oh, I can do this.

Patrick (29:59): I already did that one.

Emmoe (30:00): I can describe you. Pirates, magic, karate.

Patrick (30:03): Here for a good time.

Chris (30:03): Yes, that was great.

Emmoe (30:05): I gotcha.

Tim (30:06): Okay. So we're about to move on to the pre-experiment, but Patrick, thank you for joining us, being part of this.

Patrick (30:13): Guys, thank you for having me here.

Emmoe (30:18): You did amazing.

Patrick (30:20): I love you Tim.

Tim (30:21): I love you, Patrick.

Patrick (30:23): You're the best thing that's happened to me in a long time.

Emmoe (30:27): You get your snack now.

Tim (30:31): Okay. So now we're going to jump into The Experiment for this next week. But before we do, would you subscribe to this if you're digging it and if it's actually helpful for you or rate this please or leave a comment. If it's good, that would be awesome and if you want to get some free text messages that encourage you during the week on your phone, dial the number 55678 and then in the subject you put 10K. So to the number 55678 put 10K or go to 10000minutes.com for all other information.

Tim (31:04): Okay. So welcome back. 10,000 minutes Experiment.

Chris (31:08): Yeah. Yes.

Emmoe (31:09): You're winning.

Tim (31:10): We're totally winning. So this is the pre-experiment section.

Chris (31:12): Yes.

Emmoe (31:13): Yes.

Tim (31:13): So Patrick left and nobody likes that guy really.

Chris (31:16): He was-

Tim (31:16): A little too much. He's bad attitude.

Emmoe (31:19): Yeah. A lot of energy, like he said.

Tim (31:20): Angry. Arrogant.

Chris (31:23): Yeah. He talked about himself a lot when we were talking about ourselves.

Emmoe (31:27): So true.

Chris (31:28): And I don't know why he would do that.

Tim (31:30): I just love finding out more information about both you so well, you're a black belt and you also-

Emmoe (31:36): Yeah. Patrick who?

Chris (31:37): Is it Mayberry?

Tim (31:40): Yeah.

Chris (31:41): Mayberry.

Tim (31:42): Mayberry.

Chris (31:43): Yeah. I don't know.

Tim (31:44): Can you do your best Russian accent?

Chris (31:46): No.

Emmoe (31:46): I was like please don't-

Chris (31:48): There's some things I would go for-

Tim (31:50): $50.

Chris (31:50): Oh, that's pretty good.

Tim (31:51): Yeah.

Chris (31:52): Yeah. Yeah. Great job.

Tim (31:55): Well, I just, wow, that just came right out.

Chris (31:58): Overwhelmed me.

Emmoe (32:00): Wow. Patrick missed out.

Tim (32:01): Okay. So we're going to walk through just the beginning of this next experiment and just see what we learn and then we'll try it out for a week.

Chris (32:10): Okay.

Tim (32:10): For the next 10,000 minutes until we gather again. Okay. So-

Chris (32:16): Are you making sure all these podcasts are 80 minutes long?

Tim (32:21): No. No, but that's good math.

Chris (32:23): Okay.

Tim (32:25): Okay. What's your wake up routine?

Chris (32:27): Usually the eyes open.

Emmoe (32:32): I'll speak for my body first.

Tim (32:33): Yeah.

Chris (32:35): I don't know why I go to the dumbest thing I can possibly say in most moments.

Tim (32:39): No, that's why we're on this together.

Emmoe (32:41): That's what we want. We want it.

Chris (32:44): What I wish my wake up routine was-

Emmoe (32:47): No, no, [crosstalk 00:32:48] showing.

Chris (32:49): Usually it's either my wife or my kids waking me up in some way, I don't want to be woken up. I realize this weekend that because I woke up and saw the sunrise.

Tim (33:00): Yeah.

Chris (33:01): And I was like, babe, I was meant to be a morning person, but I haven't been since I met you.

Tim (33:06): Yeah.

Chris (33:07): And so I blamed it on her a little.

Tim (33:08): Yeah. That's good. That's-

Emmoe (33:10): Rough.

Chris (33:11): But she kind of owned it. She was fine with it. We don't have a routine. Usually it's like this morning, the alarm goes off and then we hit the snooze and it keeps going off. Our kids are already up getting whatever breakfast they want, tearing the house up. And then we're like, oh shoot. They've got to be at school in 10 minutes. And then we get up and run around like crazy. That's basically every morning.

Tim (33:32): Gosh. What a good morning.

Chris (33:33): Yeah. Except Saturdays where the kids get iPads because no shame and we sleep a little longer.

Tim (33:40): Yep. It's great.

Emmoe (33:41): That's nice.

Tim (33:41): So what's the first thing you do when you wake up generally?

Chris (33:44): Since we started this podcast?

Tim (33:46): Yeah.

Chris (33:46): For real, it's been acknowledging the Jesus thing. It's been like, man, thanks God. And it gets me in a good mood.

Tim (33:53): Yeah.

Chris (33:54): Yeah it does. And it's like, don't look at your phone. Don't look at your phone.

Tim (33:57): Yeah. I love that. Okay. Emmoe, what about you? First thing when you wake up.

Emmoe (34:01): I look at my phone.

Tim (34:03): No, no there's no shame. No shame whatsoever.

Emmoe (34:07): Yes. I snooze a lot. It's really bad.

Tim (34:11): Okay. So you just push the snooze button on your phone?

Emmoe (34:13): Yes. It's really bad. I'll look at my phone for a little, I check any social media.

Tim (34:19): What do you go straight to?

Emmoe (34:20): I think I go straight to Discord.

Tim (34:22): Okay.

Chris (34:22): What is that?

Emmoe (34:22): Do you guys have discord? So it's like communities.

Tim (34:27): It's a karate app, it's only something that karate people-

Emmoe (34:28): I'm just quizzing myself in the morning.

Chris (34:29): Yeah.

Emmoe (34:30): But it's like a Slack but for gamers. And so all these people I hang out with, I'll just check in and see what people have written or if people are playing tonight, that kind of stuff.

Tim (34:41): Right.

Chris (34:41): Yeah.

Emmoe (34:42): Then I move into-

Chris (34:42): See if they beat your high score.

Tim (34:44): Right. Pac-man.

Emmoe (34:46): Yeah, yeah because those are the games we're playing. But no, then I go to Instagram. Check Instagram for a little bit. Then I finally get up and then I dance. I dance for a few minutes.

Chris (34:59): I love that.

Tim (35:00): Gosh.

Emmoe (35:01): Pop in the AirPods. I mean hopefully like we talked last time, hopefully my roommate's gone. I'll dance.

Tim (35:06): Yeah.

Emmoe (35:06): Pop in some AirPods and then do that for a bit. And then I make the coffee and then I make some kind of scrambled egg or [foreign language 00:35:17].

Tim (35:18): [foreign language 00:35:18]-

Emmoe (35:18): Sounds fancy but it's really just like tomato and onion in there and the end. And then I go straight to my iPad and I start work.

Tim (35:25): Okay.

Chris (35:26): That's a thing.

Emmoe (35:26): That's my morning.

Tim (35:27): Okay.

Chris (35:27): Wow.

Tim (35:28): My morning routine. Gosh, it's changed so many times, but I can't not wake up at 6 o'clock or 6:30.

Chris (35:35): Yeah.

Tim (35:36): And then I roll over and I get my phone and then I check the grams. I check the news just because I know that somebody's going to say, did you hear about this? I'm like, no. Yeah, that's what I do. And then I hope that my wife will get up at some point and go take the dog out to-

Chris (35:53): Yeah. Do you ever play like you're sleeping so you don't have to be the one?

Tim (35:57): No, I'm not good at that.

Chris (35:58): I don't do that either.

Tim (36:02): Yes. Yes.

Emmoe (36:02): Asking for a friend.

Tim (36:04): [crosstalk 00:36:04] like that. Dude, have you ever done that? Nope. I haven't either.

Emmoe (36:06): Yeah. I thought so.

Tim (36:07): Yeah. Those people are idiots.

Chris (36:10): Hate those people.

Emmoe (36:11): Pet peeve.

Tim (36:11): I will take the dog out. Oh, the dog. That just takes a long time. And then I try how to work out right away. And everybody, I used to work out at a great gym called D1 out here. It's this CrossFit thing. It was so great-

Chris (36:24): You going pro?

Tim (36:24): And There's a few reasons. No, not like Emmoe. Few reasons why I quit, but now I've got... Well, Christie Brinkley and I and Chuck Norris we work out every morning.

Chris (36:35): Yeah, baby.

Tim (36:35): Because I've got a Total Gym, I think it's called.

Chris (36:37): Yeah. Those things are for real.

Tim (36:39): Yeah. I mean, well obviously. Hello. Are you looking at me ripped.

Chris (36:42): What incline do you put that baby on?

Tim (36:44): It's you all the way up. Yeah. It's you all the way up.

Chris (36:45): Wow.

Tim (36:46): So I do a lot of that and you guys, I mean maybe Emmoe we could... Well, I don't know if that's not okay.

Emmoe (36:51): Talk to me, talk to me.

Tim (36:52): But I kind of do my own jazzercise and I watch a movie because it's in our movie and so I do all these aerobic things that are so stupid and at some point somebody needs to come in with a little video camera just to catch me.

Chris (37:07): I think you should start a TikTok that's just that. It would be so good.

Tim (37:12): Oh my gosh. It would be so embarrassing for people to walk in.

Chris (37:13): You make more money off that than any music you've ever made.

Tim (37:16): That's probably true because these are some good moves.

Emmoe (37:18): We laugh because it hurts.

Chris (37:19): Yeah, exactly.

Emmoe (37:21): We laugh because we want to cry right now.

Chris (37:21): That's right.

Tim (37:22): Okay. So with our wake up routines, how does that shape your morning or shape your day?

Chris (37:27): Oh, it's everything. I get in moods and stay in them and if I get woken up wrong, it's tough to come out of a bad mood in the morning. So being able to center and focus and do that pretty quickly, I've noticed a drastic difference just in the last couple weeks of just mood. It's crazy.

Tim (37:47): Love that. This week we're going to jump into this idea. So this is the last podcast on my songs and this is the song called This Is The Day. It's written through Psalm 118. We've heard this scripture all our lives. "This is the day the Lord has made. I would rejoice and be glad in it." And it's always been such a, almost a happy go lucky.

Chris (38:09): (singing).

Tim (38:09): Yeah, yeah. It's almost like this past week where I felt like when I was praising, I was almost putting my head in the sand going, oh, nope, this isn't happening. God, you're good. That was the danger in that.

Emmoe (38:24): Canceling out.

Tim (38:24): This week the practice is actually joining Jesus in our days. I mean, it's that simple. It's joining Jesus, but it's really this heart of Psalm 118. And as I looked at Psalm 118, which we don't really know who the writer of Psalm 118 is as they're writing this psalm, the beginning and the end, it is in this chaotic, dangerous, scary time that they write this song.

Chris (38:49): Yeah.

Tim (38:49): And that just started changing the way that I thought about this idea of this is the day that you have made. I'll rejoice and be glad in it. So I wanted to just talk through that for a second. How do you guys hear that scripture? How have you heard that scripture? What would it look like for us to start our day? So my dad would always say when I was growing up in the mornings, we can either wake up in the morning and say, good God it's morning or kids wake you up or you got to take the dog out or whatever it is or your dance shoes broke or we say, good morning, God, what do you have? It just always stuck with me. This idea of good God, it's morning or good morning, God what's what do you have today? How do I join you in this day?

Tim (39:31): And this week, my hope is we would actually just really make that our practice starting from the beginning of the day, through the end of the day, just to say, instead of good God it's morning, it's like, okay, good morning, God, you woke me up again. What do you have for me today? To see, to learn, to love. The practice is really just joining Jesus in every circumstance from waking up till bed. So for me, when I write my X on my wrist every day, it is my reminder for a few things. One of them is just that I woke up again today.

Chris (40:03): Yep.

Tim (40:04): With my cancer journey, that has been one of the greatest things that's helped me kind of through all this stuff is going, okay, I don't know about tomorrow, but I got up again today. So it's my I little reminder all day long that you woke up again, man, you're not supposed to even be here. And then the other reason I write that is to remind me of the practice that we're doing. When I wake up with that, instead of going straight to my phone and letting that disciple me, because we're being discipled by things all day long, so it sounds like, oh, who's who's discipling you and I was like, well, the news is discipling me and shaping my heart. All the things. My frustration with my dog starts discipling me.

Chris (40:48): Somebody said, maybe it was, was it Jane Goodall of all people, the gorilla lady, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. I didn't really know either, but she has dedicated her life to gorillas like in Africa and stuff-

Tim (41:02): I call her Janey G.

Chris (41:03): Sure. Janey G. Anyways, I think it was her. I don't know. Could have been someone else.

Tim (41:08): Give it to her.

Chris (41:08): They were like, I think we were given a gift that sometimes people only at the brink of death have, where you're like, okay, I can't take any of this time for granted. What's really important to me now in life? What are the things I'm going to worship with my time? What are all these things? And to me, when I think about it, I'm like, oh, that's really what Jesus wanted us to do. When he talks about the kingdom of heaven and even some of these things in eternal life and when he talks about that in scripture, really he's talking about a fulfilled life. And so when I think about that and through the context of that, it's like, wow, waking up and being with Jesus in those moments are living the life that he really wanted us to live and acknowledging him in all of that, actually being present for your life and not missing it. So like dancing in the morning for 45 minutes is amazing. I don't know that I could ever do it, like jazzercising while you're Chuck Norrised out. Do you wear a headband?

Tim (42:09): I do not. Only on our walks do I wear a headband.

Tim (42:14): What are we being shaped by all day? I mean, that's another whole practice of just acknowledging what's actually shaping us. But I just believe that in the mornings just because I know it from experience, we all know this, that how we start our day actually kind of matters and then where our attention is during the day matters but it's more than just attention now. Each of these are kind of building on each other, but it's where are we giving our attention and then how do we just join them and it's starting from the very beginning and it doesn't have to be some crazy quiet time that was always the elusive.

Chris (42:49): It's never good at that.

Tim (42:50): Yeah. Shame filled thing that that is beautiful. I mean, to sit and read scripture how great, but it's more about even just aligning our hearts to him all day long, starting from the morning.

Chris (43:00): So how do we do that other than just saying like, God, thanks for this day? How much more is it than that?

Tim (43:07): Chris, I was just thinking about the same thing and I think the way that I want to try to wake up this week and maybe you guys can have other thoughts. No, you're not allowed to. The way that I would like to wake up this week is just stopping. I go straight to my phone.

Chris (43:23): Yeah.

Tim (43:24): That's how I do. And I want to stop and actually just thank him for some things, just talk through my day, even if it's like a minute or two minutes, it's just a pausing and recentering of my heart for the day. So that's what I want to practice this week. What about you guys? What would help you?

Emmoe (43:43): I think it would help me to practice with somebody. I might invite somebody to do it with me and just text each other in the morning. That's the first thing we do.

Tim (43:51): That's cool.

Emmoe (43:52): I think that would help me because I'm so in my head, so I know I'm going to get to a point where I'm like, I'm not doing this right and this isn't working and I chose this instead but if I had someone who was giving me feedback or just walking in real time, like, no, I mean, I think you're practicing it. You're taking moments to do it. It would change men then like, I have to figure this out on my own.

Tim (44:17): Yeah. Awesome, Emmoe. So that'll be fun to see how that goes.

Emmoe (44:20): Yeah.

Chris (44:21): I'm still trying to wrap my mind around how it's more than just a gratitude moment and maybe that's what it is. But I think for me it just makes so much of a difference to take a second before I've even opened my eyes.

Emmoe (44:36): And kind of going back with what Patrick said, maybe waking up and taking a moment like, this is going to be an adventurous day, I'm with you today.

Tim (44:44): Yeah.

Emmoe (44:45): And if it's crap, it was still an adventure. I was still with you. I wasn't alone. And I think that kind of shows why I want to do with someone because I'll feel alone if I do it.

Chris (44:56): Yeah.

Emmoe (44:57): I'm just me, myself and I sharpening myself. Then it's like, or I'm seeing Jesus be with me through my friend for a week or whatever.

Chris (45:07): A couple days ago, the day that I woke up early and I just loved it. I beat my kids away. I didn't beat them awake.

Tim (45:15): Golly, that came across-

Emmoe (45:15): Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Chris (45:16): But I woke up prior to my children waking up-

Emmoe (45:21): Say less.

Chris (45:21): I just like, what I like to do is just go in there and spank them to wake them up.

Emmoe (45:28): We just lost half of our demographic.

Tim (45:31): That was so good. That was so great. I just beat my kids awake.

Chris (45:34): Just beat them awake. Some of them takes a lot... I'm not going to stop, man. We could get so far into this. I woke up before my kids. Doesn't happen very often.

Tim (45:42): Well said.

Chris (45:43): They're just the sweetest in that five minutes. They're sweeter than they ever are during the day.

Tim (45:49): Yeah. Yeah.

Chris (45:49): Thinking about what Patrick said even, it's like, oh, those moments, me with my kids, are maybe like those moments we can give God that are the sweetest before he beats us out of bed with real life.

Tim (46:02): No, that's great, Chris. I love that. That's a good pull. So for you people listening, what does that look like for you? Whether it's you calling somebody else or texting somebody else or just starting your day with thankfulness or starting your day just saying, Jesus, how do I join you? And then it's through your day, what's reminding you to just stay with him. Just keep joining him in what he's doing instead of inviting him into what you're doing. That's my hope that this kind of plays out all the way through. So this is an experiment and we'll see how this sucker goes.

Chris (46:37): All right.

Emmoe (46:38): Sweet.

Tim (46:38): So you'll listen to us next week or if you're binging, you're going to listen to us in the next minutes.

Emmoe (46:43): Yeah.

Chris (46:43): We'll be right back.

Tim (46:44): We'll be right back.

Emmoe (46:46): Don't go anywhere.

Tim (46:47): Thank you Emmoe.

Emmoe (46:49): No problem. This is fun.

Tim (46:49): Thank you, Chris.

Chris (46:50): Yeah, man.

Tim (46:51): Okay. Bye.

Chris (47:23): Right on. Everything is awesome.

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